res scrolls being like rebirth? - Guild Wars Forums

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Apr 29, 2012, 12:00 PM // 12:00

as the title says... asks

is a res scroll as effective as rebirth (skill), meaning you can use them for dunes of despair exploring?
i'd like to know, so i dont need to use skills, and can instead use my rusty/dusty res scrolls when needed

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Apr 29, 2012, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

Scroll of Resurrection

... "Party members resurrected in this manner are restored to life at your location" ...

... "resurrects first and then teleports affected party members" ...

i know, but maybe it has flaws of teleporting to other platforms or something, like some shadow steps cannot bring you far, and others can (i've seen it few times)

Spiritz · Apr 29, 2012, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Does the part where it says within earshot missed by you ?
Depending on how earshot works it doesnt leave much of an area you have to be within to use - and im sure that anet learned their mistakes ages ago when you could teleport thru walls and made sure you cannot be res thru walls .

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Apr 29, 2012, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Does the part where it says within earshot missed by you ?
Depending on how earshot works it doesnt leave much of an area you have to be within to use - and im sure that anet learned their mistakes ages ago when you could teleport thru walls and made sure you cannot be res thru walls .

in dunes of despair, you can use res to get through the rest of the mission
but thats with rebirth, and i saw some shadow step skills which couldnt do the same at other places, with similar cliffs

now all i wanna know is: can res scrolls do the same as rebirth in missions like that one?
i dont remember what skills couldnt get you over such cliff, but i'm sure there were other ways to get where these shadow step skills couldnt bring me

is it so hard to just answer this? it could be like that/those shadow step skill(s) and not work, or act like rebirth and work..... i'm just asking this, thats all

Markaedw · Apr 29, 2012, 03:46 PM // 15:46

There is only two skills that can get you over the gulley, the necro skills Necrotic Traversal and Consume Corpse. First you need to agro a scarb then use the skill to get to the corpse, there are a few good spots, right next to the bonus bridge and around the corner on the left. The skill can be used by a hero. And yes, a res scroll will bring the bodies to you over the gulley.

Snograt · Apr 29, 2012, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Doesn't look like anyone is going to actually answer your question, Ayuhmii. Best option is to just try it and see, I would have thought.

Markaedw is right in that going /N and taking Necrotic Traversal is the usual method - if your entire party is human and they all go /N then it's doable. Otherwise just you and the magically teleporting heroes. I love that glitch

Andemius · Apr 29, 2012, 05:04 PM // 17:04

I imagine that a scroll would work. The mechanic you're after is "Teleport", not "Shadow Step". I belive that Scrolls, Rebirth, UA, Nec Trav, and CCorpse all do that.

Although it's easy enough to bring a necro/monk hero to do it for you. I did.

Kelvin Greyheart · Apr 29, 2012, 07:13 PM // 19:13

The necromancer skills, rebirth, UA, and res scrolls are teleports and not shadow steps. They do not require autopathing, and as such, they will function through impassable terrain.

Do note a few things with the resurrection effects. Scrolls have a marginally smaller range, and scrolls resurrect, and then teleport the target(s). As a result of the latter, if someone is in aggro range when you use a scroll on them, they will resurrect with aggro, whereas this is not the case with rebirth and UA.

In short, yes, you can do the classic bow the boss/scarab NT down and simply scroll everyone across. UA and rebirth are not necessary to complete this.

Apr 29, 2012, 12:00 PM // 12:00	#1
Ayuhmii Shanbwa Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Holland Guild: [GaMe] Profession: Rt/	res scrolls being like rebirth? as the title says... asks is a res scroll as effective as rebirth (skill), meaning you can use them for dunes of despair exploring? i'd like to know, so i dont need to use skills, and can instead use my rusty/dusty res scrolls when needed

Apr 29, 2012, 03:46 PM // 15:46	#5
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	There is only two skills that can get you over the gulley, the necro skills Necrotic Traversal and Consume Corpse. First you need to agro a scarb then use the skill to get to the corpse, there are a few good spots, right next to the bonus bridge and around the corner on the left. The skill can be used by a hero. And yes, a res scroll will bring the bodies to you over the gulley. Last edited by Markaedw; Apr 29, 2012 at 03:57 PM // 15:57..

Apr 29, 2012, 04:21 PM // 16:21	#6
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	Doesn't look like anyone is going to actually answer your question, Ayuhmii. Best option is to just try it and see, I would have thought. Markaedw is right in that going /N and taking Necrotic Traversal is the usual method - if your entire party is human and they all go /N then it's doable. Otherwise just you and the magically teleporting heroes. I love that glitch __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Apr 29, 2012, 03:01 PM // 15:01	#3
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Does the part where it says within earshot missed by you ? Depending on how earshot works it doesnt leave much of an area you have to be within to use - and im sure that anet learned their mistakes ages ago when you could teleport thru walls and made sure you cannot be res thru walls .

Apr 29, 2012, 05:04 PM // 17:04	#7
Andemius Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: Vanguard's Last Stand [Hero] Profession: W/	I imagine that a scroll would work. The mechanic you're after is "Teleport", not "Shadow Step". I belive that Scrolls, Rebirth, UA, Nec Trav, and CCorpse all do that. Although it's easy enough to bring a necro/monk hero to do it for you. I did.

Apr 29, 2012, 07:13 PM // 19:13	#8
Kelvin Greyheart Academy Page Join Date: May 2007	The necromancer skills, rebirth, UA, and res scrolls are teleports and not shadow steps. They do not require autopathing, and as such, they will function through impassable terrain. Do note a few things with the resurrection effects. Scrolls have a marginally smaller range, and scrolls resurrect, and then teleport the target(s). As a result of the latter, if someone is in aggro range when you use a scroll on them, they will resurrect with aggro, whereas this is not the case with rebirth and UA. In short, yes, you can do the classic bow the boss/scarab NT down and simply scroll everyone across. UA and rebirth are not necessary to complete this.